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Old November 2nd 06, 07:11 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Tom Anderson Tom Anderson is offline
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Default Questions on the 2016 London Transport map esp the trams

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:15:55 -0600, "Tristán White"
wrote:

Just had another look at what is without a doubt my favourite London
transport map:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...eases/putting-
transport-onthemap.pdf


There are other errors such as showing Thameslink 2000 (hah!) but still
showing a service to Moorgate. The Moorgate to Finsbury Park line is
missing and yet the link out of Kings Cross from Thameslink is shown -
eh?


Hang on, hang on - what do you think is going to happen, and what do you
think the map is showing?

My understanding is that Thameslink 2000/3000 (TLnK) will gofrom Finsbury
Park to King's Cross (well, St Pancras) and beyond, but that there will
still be trains on the Northern City Line (NCL) from Finsbury Park to
Moorgate (no idea what the service pattern will be). The intention is not,
AIUI, to close the Northern City Line. If that's the case, then the fact
that the map doesn't show the line but does have a BR arrow at Moorgate
(and Old Street and Highbury & Islington) makes sense - the arrow
indicates the presence of an NR service that isn't shown as a line on the
map (as at Seven Sisters, Tottenham Hale, etc)

Now, what is a bit odd is that TLnK is shown as a line and the NCL is only
implied. However, there isn't a hard and fast rule for what's shown and
what's implied: on the tube map, all NR lines (except the NLL and
Thameslink) are implied, and on the london connections map, all NR lines
are shown, but on a weirdo special-purpose map like this, it's all up in
the air. I'd like to be able to infer that this means that TLnK will be
running a high-frequency tube-like commuter service, whereas the NCL will
carry a low-frequency long-distance service, but i don't think that's true
- TLnK will be long-distance trains from the sticks, and NCL will still be
inner suburbans; i suppose the frequencies may be as suggested, though,
with 16 tph on TLnK and 4 tph or whatever it is on the NCL. Rather, i
suspect the difference is based simply on what TfL wants to emphasise: the
lines shown are the tube lines everyone already knows, plus all the new
stuff (including the assimilated NLL etc); all other NR lines remain only
as BR arrows.

Also, what is Thameslink 2000 called these days? Surely it should be the
Thameslink Extension, which would give us TLX, and perhaps let us get
George Lucas on board.

tom

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