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Old January 21st 07, 12:01 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
Jonathan Morris Jonathan Morris is offline
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Default Penalty fares for sitting in First Class

Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
The worst I've found is on sub-urban commuter routes where very few of the
regular stock have first class but occasionally one gets put on. Naturally
hardly anyone's got a first class ticket and the result is either have
everyone squeeze into standard class like sardines or some have to go in
first.


Surely first class can't be valid in those circumstances? It MUST be
declassified as nobody would ever mark a service as having first class
if passengers couldn't always use it.

This is why services that are operated by 313s on FCC GN won't have
first class, even though a lot of the time the Letchworth/Royston rush
hour trains will use a 317 (and also some services returning at the end
of rush hour from WGC in the morning to KGX and then back to the
depot). The timetable clearly shows them as being standard class only.

Jonathan