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Old January 29th 07, 05:42 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Paul Speller Paul Speller is offline
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Default Southeastern Railway staving off Oyster PAYG

I'm at the end of my tether with my local train operating company,
Southeastern Railway (SER hereafter).

They only took over the franchise 9 months ago but they signed up to it
just before the government decided that all future franchises would
mandate acceptance of Oyster PAYG, which basically means that if SER
won't adopt Oyster voluntarily, they won't be legally compelled to for
something like ten years! (As if we didn't suffer enough through the
Connex years...)

Anyway, on hearing recently of the Mayor's offer of £20m to get Oyster
PAYG off the ground for National Rail operators, and specifically when I
heard that c2c were taking it up, I contacted SER (as I had done during
South Eastern's publicly owned period, to no avail) to ask about their
plans for Oyster PAYG, with specific reference to the offer.

They came back with the most outdated and in places downright dishonest
stream of pathetic arguments against taking up the Mayor's offer you can
imagine. All the golden oldies were the increased risk of fraud at
ungated stations (as if bits of the Tube and the DLR can't cope with
that); a claim that *no* NR operator could possibly take up the offer at
the moment for lots of reasons (ridiculous when c2c had made their
announcement a day or two earlier); and the outright lie that the £20m
was "only a loan" so would have to be "paid back with interest".

I passed the response to TfL for comment, replying in the meantime with
my considered opinions and queries about their laughable response. I
also replied again when Chiltern took up the offer a few days later,
pointing out again that they were wrong about other NR operators; and
finally when TfL replied (saying that they had contacted ATOC to
complain about the misinformation SER were giving their customers -
excellent!) I passed their response to SER too.

My three e-mails were sent on 18, 25 and 27 January, but still no
response was forthcoming today, and the deadline is looming, so tonight
I rang up their customer service line. After being kept on hold for five
to ten minutes, I got through to someone who could basically tell me
absolutely nothing beyond the fact that because my e-mails raised
complicated issues, they were all at "Head Office, in a queue, to be
dealt with in order of receipt". Apparently "they have a lot of stuff"
at Head Office, so they can't tell me when it's likely to be responded
to. I suspect it will be some time after the 31 Jan deadline.

Is there anything I can do to get some action out of this lazy,
unhelpful, irritating company? My wife (she's the commuter, I'm the
leisure traveller) is going to SER's Meet the Managers session on
Thursday to have a rant but that's the day after the deadline has
passed. Why isn't there more publicity for how selfish/greedy/obstinate
the NR operators who aren't taking up this deal are being? How can we
get some? It's so frustrating. Is there anything I can do, either to
help get them to accept the offer, or to get them reprimanded for their
misinformation and unhelpfulness?

Apologies if you've read this whole post hoping it was going to get to a
really interesting point of some sort. I wanted to get this all off my
chest in the vain hope that somehow writing all this down would lead to
me, or someone reading it, having an amazing idea that would guarantee
that SER would accept Oyster PAYG within weeks. I fear I was being a
little optimistic.

*sigh*

Sorry again,

Paul