On 7 Feb, 08:34, "MIG" wrote:
On Feb 7, 1:33 am, "Mizter T" wrote:





The Mayor has suspended the plan to run the Underground service half
an hour later on friday and saturday nights because, he states, of
problems getting in agreed with with two of the unions, ASLEF and the
RMT. Two other unions, the TSSA and the far smaller British Transport
Operators' Guild, have agreed to the proposals.

The press release from the Mayor's statement is he
http://www.london.gov.uk/view_press_release.jsp?releaseid=10750

A response from ASLEF is he
http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/104004/

Ken says "ASLEF negotiators have rejected the offer we have made,
including the three days' extra holiday, without putting it to their
members."

ASLEF retort "The problem is not London's tube drivers. It is London
Underground Limited's negotiators. They don't seem to know what
negotiation means."

My initial response is probably that shared by many Londoners - that
the unions are being awkward despite having been offered a good deal
and are stalling progress on this popular initiative. That said when
these spats occur things aren't necessarily as simple as they seem,
though having just read a previous thread ("Tube Strike?" thread,
started January 9 [1]) it does seem like the late running plan isn't a
fig leaf for other grievances, but is in fact the primary sticking
point. One issue seems to be whether LU would pay for drivers to get a
taxi home after late shifts.

It seems to me like the right thing for the wrong reason. I am not
sure how popular it really was. People said that like it to run
later, and that was all.

Then they were told "OK, you can have the extra service that makes it
slightly easier to get home after a night out. By the way, to give
you that we're going to take away the much more important morning
service you depend on to get to the airport or that many low-paid
workers use to get to work."

A bit like being offered gravy and then having your meat taken away

True though if they were really low paid they wouldnt be able to
afford the tube and would bus it.

Wasnt the time difference changed from one hour to half? So we're
talking about one day a week staff finishing half an hour later and
starting later the next day. For which they would be given three days
extra holiday?

How is that not a good deal for them?