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Old March 8th 07, 07:37 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Paul Corfield Paul Corfield is offline
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:14:25 +0000, Dave A wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

It will be interesting to see what actually happens to this line. The
plans are fine in theory but Network Rail have to spend money to sort
out the decaying bridges and viaducts before you can get any real
performance out of the line. It's currently very slow due to
infrastructure restrictions on the western part of the line. I just
don't see this line being the priority given the pressures to raise
capacity on the North London Line and to build the ELLX.


AIUI, infrastructure work by Network Rail is already pencilled in for
summer 2011, following work on the western NLL and then the eastern NLL.


Any definition as to what this work will be? A shame we have to wait 4
years but better late than never if it gets the line back into some sort
of decent shape.

As for station works, there are proposals for an extensive package of
work which will be firmed up once the concession has been let. It's very
likely that several stations will have quite extensive works involving
big alterations to the ticket areas. Ticket gates are very likely to go
in at those stations. I believe that *every* station will have ticket
machines installed (this being most relevant to the GOBLIN); ticket
*offices* are very unlikely as the philosophy will be to follow LU in
freeing up staff to work more visibly throughout the station, rather
than sitting behind ticket windows with poor visibility.


I am genuinely surprised that ticket gates will go in. I can see why
ticketing improvements are needed - after all something is better than
nothing. I still think it will be a challenge to get all of this work
properly planned and co-ordinated. Assuming the existing safety rules
apply to these future gate installations I detect a slight flaw in the
operational revenue concept when put alongside the staffing concept you
describe below. If the gates have to be powered down for periods of
time then people will simply learn how to work round the temporary
restriction.

There is still some question over how the Mayor's plan for full staffing
will work - it depends on the final concession agreement. One suggestion
is to have staff roaming between stations, which of course will have the
side effect of putting them on board trains too.


I suppose that makes sense in terms of a common philosophy but given the
relative isolation of these stations and low frequency I would have
thought a permanent presence would be preferable to provide security,
revenue protection and prevent vandalism. Still the main thing is that
at long last they are going to see some substantive improvement which is
really what is needed.
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Paul C


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