On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:52:30 -0700, XmaX wrote:

On Jun 17, 4:47 pm, MIG wrote:
On Jun 17, 3:08 pm, XmaX wrote:
On Jun 17, 12:44 pm, Paul Corfield wrote:

If I was to guess how you made your journeys I would say District Line
direct or else District and Central Lines. Am I right or am I right?

Yes I am using mostly Central and District lines, DLR sometimes. And
basically, you are right that I am trying to go through Z1 without
paying for it, and I agree that it is not right thing to do. But then,
what are the chances of being caught? Do they even check the tickets
in the Underground (I know they do in DLR, but then it's within Z23)?

If you can buy a paper travelcard, what is the advantage of using
Oyster then? They cost the same, don't they? So what's the difference?
By the way, can you buy it in the DLR ticket machine?

The difference seems to be that if you have a zone 2, 3, 4 travelcard
on Oyster and (be assumed to) go through zone 1 you'll be charged
£1.50 from your PAYG balance.

If you have a zone 2, 3, 4 paper travelcard, you have three choices.

1) avoid paying
2) pay a £4 extension for the zone 1 part of the journey
3) get off twice during the journey, go to the gateline and back and
wait for another train, so that you can touch in and out and pay £1.50
on your (separate) Oyster.

Quite what the situation is if there is no boundary 1/2 station I
don't know.

That is, with a 2, 3, 4 paper travelcard, can you travel into zone 1
purely to touch in with your Oyster at the first stop, or do you have
to get off while still in zone 2 and then pay £2 for a zone 1/2
journey?

I think you can get a seven-day travelcard from DLR machines, but not
certain now. Everything the DLR sells is paper.

OK, great. So in other words, I can indeed travel via Z1 with Z234
paper travelcard, yes? I understand that I could be in trouble if
someone catches me, but how can that happen? In DLR, there are
inspectors, but it's all Z23, so it's OK. Buses - no zones, so OK.
Underground - wrong zones, but who checks the tickets apart from the
gates, which wouldn't do anything anyway?

I am pretty sure that DLR machines sell some kind of travelcards, but
the DLR is within Z23, so I suppose it only sells within these zones.

So Bank and Tower Gateway stations have moved out of Zone 1 have they?
DLR covers Zones 1-3 over its network.

I think you really need to consider that ticket inspections are
undertaken on trains and on interchange routes for DLR and for LU. If
you are caught then you may be at risk of prosecution rather than being
levied a penalty fare.
--
Paul C


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