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Old July 27th 07, 04:36 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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"Mr Thant" wrote in message
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Peter Lawrence wrote:
Do I deduce from this post and Uriah's that there will be walking
routes both at platform/Champagne bar level and at undercroft/street
level? Having to use the higher level would be a pain for TL
passengers.


All walking routes will be at street/undercroft level, either south to the
western ticket hall or east to the stairs down to the new subway to the
northern ticket hall.


Wrong see below please...

I don't think you can get anywhere useful at MML/E* platform level, and
the TL station looks to have exactly one way out, by going up escalators
that dump you at the NW corner of the undercroft level.


There is a route from the MML platform level all the way down to the front
of the station, on the west side, and then round towards the SE corner of
the train shed, where there is a level exit to the front of the station,
where I believe the cab entrance used to be. How else would they entice
people into the various pubs and restaurants, not to mention the champagne
bar? Exit here then leads either westwards down the old vehicle ramp towards
Euston Rd, or directly down a flight of steps to pavement level, immediately
to the south of the LU western ticket hall entrance onto Pancras Rd opposite
Kings Cross. Within the LU western ticket hall itself, there is (currently
boarded off) street level access to the St Pancras undercroft, immediately
next to the Eurostar ticket office, which is on the same level as the
combined ticket hall for the 3 domestic operators, although obviously some
distance away.

I suspect the Thameslink escalators are where they are firstly to allow easy
change between MML and Thameslink (FCC) services, and secondly, so that they
are about half way along the 12 car platforms, which aids loading the 24 tph
trains more evenly. Also, those critical of the distances between the
domestic and LU SSL platforms may find that they have been designed that way
to break up what could otherwise be large numbers arriving simultaneously
off 9 car long distance or12 car Thameslink services. Perhaps an expert on
queuing theory could comment?

Paul