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Old September 22nd 07, 05:52 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default 1938 Stock Tube Tours

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*Subject:* 1938 Stock Tube Tours
*From:* "Clive."
*Date:* Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40:52 +0100

In message . com,
MIG writes
The report in the previous link implies that is was made of two

three-
car sets, ie six altogether.

The story (and also some other accounts I've read) suggests that a
number of people were standing, although that could be a case of

"I'll
have an uncomfortable journey to save a few yards at the terminus".

As I remember my time on the Northern Line, trains were composed of
four and three car sets, each three car set being composed of only
one driving car and a panel driven (30000unit?) Now as all the
driving cars were either "A" or "D" end and as the units were
uniform it would suggest that all the 30000 units were either "A"
or "D", I suspect "A". At that time, only "A" and "D" units could
couple under normal circumstances. This is why I suspect press
reports about six car trains. As I've said I suspect the trains
were only four cars long and this came from seeing them in 16 foot
tunnels and eight car platforms, but if you can provide me with
more accurate information, I'll happily apologise and back down.


The Northern main line had 7 car trains, with M-T-T-M four car units and
a mixture of M-T-M and UNDM-T-M three-car units. The UNDMs were numbered
in the 30000 series. However, I think all the Northern City trains were
and still are 6 cars maximum.

goes to bookshelf

My 1969 edition of Ian Allan's "London Transport Locomotives and Rolling
Stock" has my contemporary annotations on the Northern line 1938TS that
there were then 115 4-car units and 124 3-car units in service, with 10
of the latter allocated to the Northern City line, including 5 3-car sets
with even-numbered DMs which had been reduced from 4 cars.

QED.

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Colin Rosenstiel