On 24 Sep, 22:15, "Chris Read" wrote:


The 409 is a rather long route; apparently it takes about 2 hours:

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Which is why I said few people travel on it. It's about 16 miles by
road between Croydon and East Grinstead so is averaging 8 miles an
hour. The reason being that the bus dives up side roads all over the
place in the hope of finding passengers. It finds few people because
it spends so long wandering about Surrey that they would rather drive
if they have a car (pretty well essential outside Ken's Kingdom) or go
by train if doing a large part of the journey.

Peter