On Nov 6, 11:43 pm, Tim Woodall wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:50:21 +0000,
Charles Ellson wrote:



On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:16:48 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:

"Ken" wrote

But Oyster PAYG will be accepted from Day One, throughout the
"Overground" network, even to Watford Jct., which is a big change.

Presumably Oyster PAYG will also be accepted on Southern between Watford
Junction and Clapham Junction, and on West Midlands (ex-Silverlink County)
between Watford Junction and Euston. But is this spelt out anywhere?
Presumably, though, not on VWC between Watford Junction and Euston, in view
of the take up/set down status of stops at Watford Junction.

The specific references to "North London Railway" and the map on:-
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...ground-map.pdf
would seem to exclude Southern and the non-DC route from Euston to
Watford.

It's going to be a nightmare and people are going to get very confused
if that is the case. :-(


One more clue about possible acceptance of Oyster PAYG on Southern
services is the presence of Oyster PAYG validators on Platforms 2,16
and 17 at Clapham Junction (but not on the other platforms). Platforms
2 and 17 can be used by what will be the Overground trains (to / from
Willesden), but it would be very unusual to see a Metro train in
Platform 16, as the only access is via a shunt East (geographically) /
North (direction of the service) of the station. Any train undertaking
the shunt is likely to just run in service back in the Olympia
direction.

Also, within the zones, would Southern have any choice but to accept
PAYG, as I think that Silverlink would currently set the fares and if
they (as Overground) as setting the fares at PAYG Oyster levels, then
Southern would have no choice but to accept them. The acceptance (or
not) of PAYG to Watford Junction on Southern would just be the same as
PAYG for the London Midland services. As both are run by Govia, then
I'd imagine a common policy.