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Old November 10th 07, 11:56 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
Tim Woodall Tim Woodall is offline
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Default London Overground from 11 Nov 2007

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:06:38 +0000,
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:51:46 +0000, asdf
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:04:51 -0800, wrote:

(Actually, my guess is that oyster won't be ready at these stations at
the weekend so the information hasn't been published to stop people
thinking they will be able to use it)


I have to agree - I'll be pleasantly surprised if PAYG is valid beyond
Hatch End tomorrow.


I am told via another group that the following applies.

PAYG - Watford - Euston on Overground services
PAYG - Harrow & Wealdstone - Euston on London Midland (no change from
Silverlink validity)
PAYG - Watford Junction - Clapham Junction on Southern

PAYG *not* valid on London Midland from Watford Junction - Harrow and
Wealdstone. I am waiting for a response to a question as to whether the
above non availability also means no availability of PAYG between
Watford and Euston on London Midland services.

Fascinating. So you can take any train except a London Midland train
from Watford Junction on PAYG and then change onto a London Midland
train at H&W that will have stopped at WJ anyway!

Stations from Hatch End - Watford Junction will be priced *for PAYG
only* on the Zones 6A-D principle as for the out county stretches of the
Met. The out county zones do not apply to Travelcards which are still
priced and issued as a Z1-6 plus rail to Watford Junction. I don't know
which stations on the DC line fall into which out county zones. Hatch
End remains in Zone 6.

It's all a bit of a nuisance if PAYG won't have general validity from
WJ. I enjoyed my Friday journeys via Watford-Baker Street which gets me
about 14 miles of cycling (approx 2.5+4.5+4.5+2.5) rather than the 8
miles I usually get (approx 1+3+3+1). It's just a shame that the met
line journey takes so long so I wouldn't want to do it every day. But if
I was always using PAYG I could choose which way to go. (Obviously I can
do that anyway but I have to pay extra for a slower journey - I assume
adding an all zones travel card onto my gold card won't take me to the
end of the Met line, just to Z6?)

Please don't shoot the messenger given the inconsistencies in the above
position. More changes due for the Jan Fares Revision but I don't know
what they are.

No shooting here. Whilst, of course, everybody is hoping for cheaper
fares, I think the main complaint is that nobody is certain when and
where tickets are going to be available/valid. I'm assuming that my gold
card will remain valid on the DC line from Watford Junction but even
that hasn't been explicitly set out. (I've always assumed that it's not
valid on the Bakerloo line for the stations that are the same as the DC
line BICBW)

Tim.

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