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Old November 17th 07, 06:09 PM posted to uk.railway, uk.transport.london
[email protected] j.p.harris@talk21.com is offline
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On 17 Nov, 18:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:
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On 17 Nov, 16:03, W14_Fishbourne wrote:
On Nov 17, 3:26 pm, burkey wrote:


"Hopefully now people will get the savings and service that they
deserve."


I fear that Ms Ward is mistaken if she thinks that the availability of
Oyster PAYG from Watford Junction will mean lower fares. PAYG fares
will be the same as for paper tickets from Watford Junction.


How will differential fares for London Midland and London Overground
journeys be achieved?


They don't need to be differential fares, they weren't previously with
Silverlink were they?

They are 'special fares' because they are outside the normal ' zones'. A bit
like beyond Moor Park on the Met, but so far a bit of a secret, unless you
use the single fares finder. Nothing appears to have been published yet
about how capping will operate, either.

Paul S


They do need to be differential fare if the statement that PAYG =
Paper Ticket is true

The single fare finder says:

London Euston [London Overground] to Watford Junction

Oyster single fare
£5.50 Monday to Friday from 0700 and before 1900.
£3.00 At all other times including public holidays.

Cash single fare
Special cash fares apply to selected London Overground journeys.

The NR single fare for the same journey is £7.20 (first class is
£11.00).
The NR return fare is £7.40, standard day return is £11.70.

An off-peak single is quite different from the current cash single
fare.

The definition of peak is pretty different too. Clearly, no-one in
their right mind would use Oyster for a simple return journey after
the NR-defined peak [1]. Someone travelling into London before 0700
(is that restriction really early enough - it should be more like 0600
once Oyster expands into the suburbs?) and out after 1900 would be
able to make quite a saving.


Jonathan

[1] depending on how capping works after 09:30.