On Nov 22, 10:53 pm, MIG wrote:
On Nov 22, 10:35 pm, Paul Corfield wrote:



On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:45:16 -0800 (PST), wrote:
was at paddington today waiting for circle line to south ken.
Wimbledon service rolls in and announcer says the next Circle is at
Kings Cross at least ten minutes away.

Get on and at the next stop Bayswater stick my head out. Next circle
line is 1 minute away.

I know that they do not know when the next train is coming because of
the antiquated sinalling system but why do they have to lie. If they
dont know then dont say anything. Grrrrr

I don't know why you leap to the conclusion that someone lied. I can't
begin to understand why a member of staff making a public announcement
would do that.

The most likely explanation is that a decision was taken to reverse a
train at Edgware Road or one was brought out from the sidings or taken
off the Wimbledon service and made into a Circle Line in order to fill
the gap. As you acknowledge the signalling system is not very
sophisticated in that part of the network. Given Paddington is about 1
minute from Edgware Road it is entirely plausible that a signal had not
been cleared for the "new" Circle Line train and that would not have
triggered the platform display or Trackernet to indicate an imminent
arrival at Paddington.

Is it still the case that the indicators at Paddington don't show any
trains as due till they are already in sight?

I haven't been there for a while.

That is still the case. The trains appear on the Dot Matrix when the
train is past Praed St junction.

As to Paddington, the Information Booth Assistant will look at
Trackernet (not always very good, but better than what it was) for the
next train, and coupled with any information from the Line Control
Service Operator make the announcements. From past experience the
train most likely came up from Hammersmith to reverse and form an anti-
clockwise Circle. Trains at Edgware Road on the Trackernet do often
vanish so it may have come round the circle, also when the Train
Description is changed this would not appear on Trackernet either, so
they wouldn't know without phoning Edgware Road station, what that
train was doing.