Paul Corfield wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:57:07 +0000, Michael Hoffman
wrote:

U Thant reports on his blog that:

"Another new thing in the fares leaflet is the availability of Railcard
discounted fares caps on Oyster PAYG. You'll be able to have your Young
Persons, Disabled Persons, HM Forces or Senior Railcard loaded onto your
Oyster card (no details how) and from then on the off-peak fares cap for
you will be around a third lower than normal (e.g. GBP3.10 vs GBP4.80 for
Zones 1-2). There doesn't appear to be a discount on peak caps or single
journeys."

http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...ster-payg.html

Does anyone know how this loading process will be done? Will you be able
to waltz into any LU ticket office and do it? When does this start,
beginning of 2008?

Can only be done at LU Ticket Offices with staff using the Ticket Office
Machine. Can't be done via a Passenger Operated Machine. Starts from
2/1/08. The Oyster Card must be registered. The railcard number and
expiry date are to be recorded and I assume entered into the Oyster card
so as to manage entitlement and expiry aspects of the discount.

Thanks for the info. I wonder if TfL might share a limited amount of
information with ATOC for the administration of this - e.g. attempt to
match up the registered Oyster card holder with the details given for
the Railcard holder?

I'm also wondering whether such users will have to carry their
Railcard with them as well? Whilst not technically necessary, I'd
presume that they would, otherwise there's the potential for fraud.

If the Railcard number is entered on to the Oyster card, then if the
Railcard gets replaced after being stolen/lost, the holder would
presumably have to go and update the details held on the Oyster card
so that they tally with the replacement Railcard. There would also
have to be a mechanism whereby the Railcard discount flag on an Oyster
cards could be revoked at the request of the holder, if for example
they've lost their Railcard and don't get a replacement.


Adult PAYG fares will be charged but there is a discounted daily off
peak cap. Note that it is only off peak travel that gains a discount
under this system.

Which makes sense as the Railcards only offer reductions for off-peak
Day Travelcards.

Those who have a Railcard discount on their Oyster will find there are
even more journey combinations where they'll pay a pre-0930 peak time
fare or two and then be capped at the relevant off-peak cap for the
rest of their day's travels.


Adult Railcard
Z12 �4.80 �3.10
Z14 �5.40 �3.50
Z16 �6.50 �4.20
Z19 �7.70 �5.00
Z19W �12.60 �8.30
Z26 �4.30 �2.80
Z29 �4.60 �3.00
Z29W �6.60 �4.30

HTH

--
Paul C


Aha, the first sighting of the thus far elusive "zone W" (for Watford
Junction) in a fares table!

Do you have the non-discounted capping levels for "zone W" fares at
all?