On Jan 12, 12:26*am, Mizter T wrote:
On 11 Jan, 17:28, JB wrote:

Can you transfer the travelcard element of an annual National Rail
season tickets that has an origin of somewhere outside London, for
example Cambridge to Zones R1256, onto an Oyster card, and if so how?

JB

Simple answer - no.

In the future, if and when Oyster Pay-as-you-go gets extended outside
of the London zonal system, then Travelcard seasons (and indeed
perhaps even rail-only seasons) from stations outside London might
also become available on Oyster, but that hasn't happened yet.

(A small addendum to the above just to make life complicated -
stopping services on the Watford Jn - Euston line are now part of
TfL's London Overground network, and stations from Watford High Street
southwards are now within the London zonal system - at least with
regards to tickets issued by London Overground or other TfL outlets,
though confusingly not with regards to tickets issued by National
Rail. This means that, at least with respect to passengers buying new
seasons from London Overground or other TfL outlets, passengers can
have their Travelcard seasons issued on Oyster, and if said Travelcard
seasons had the required zonal validity then they would also be valid
on fast London Midland trains from Bushey.)

Now I come to the possibility of combining a season Travelcard and a
season ticket. I must admit that despite many many discussions on
uk.railway about this issue I'm still somewhat hazy as to what is
allowed!

What is definitely allowed is to combine a season Travelcard and a
rail-only season ticket when your train stops at the point when you
swap between the two tickets - so lets say you travel from Woking to
London Waterloo, then as long as you got on a train that stopped at
Surbiton you could have a Woking to Surbiton rail-only season (as a
printed ticket), and then a zones 1-6 season Travelcard (issued on
Oyster if you so desire) which would kick in at Surbiton (Surbiton
being in zone 6).

What I'm less clear on is whether this would be allowed if the Woking
to London Waterloo train did not stop at Surbiton (as only some trains
from Woking to Waterloo do stop there). Perhaps someone can put me
right on this once and for all!


A slight tangent, but whatever the situation is now, it will
presumably be different again once Oyster is accepted on NR in London.

Does this mean that paper travelcards will cease being available at NR
stations in London?

If so, that means that anyone who declines to have all his/her
movements tracked will no longer be able to get anything longer than a
weekly and will have to pay more, as on LU already. You can't have a
monthly unless your card is registered.