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Old January 13th 08, 08:58 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Redevelopment at Liverpool Street

On 13 Jan, 21:14, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 13 Jan, 16:56, MIG wrote: On 13 Jan, 16:49, MIG wrote:
On 13 Jan, 16:32, lonelytraveller wrote:
When it was first planned, Liverpool Street Central Line station was
to have direct-to-platform lifts (which is why the platforms are so
far apart), but just before it was built the plans were changed to use
escalators instead (these are probably the middle set of escalators,
each in their own shaft). However, they kept one of the lift shafts in
the plans, built it, but fitted it out with a spiral staircase.


Where is that spiral staircase?
Does it still exist?
I had a feeling I'd used one there, but it could be a figment of my


imagination.
I've found this pictuhttp://www.ltmcollection.org/images/...76/9865076.jpg
which seems to show some sort of stairs, but I can't work out how that
fits into the modern layout, or what it actually represents

There were always escalators at that end, but that exit wasn't always
open. *There used to be single escalators, each in its own passage.


Rereading that bit, the escalators I was talking about were heading
northish, ie in the line direction towards Bethnal Green. *I am sure
that they merely led to an exit nearer the Liverpool Street ticket
barriers, and nothing to do with Broad Street.


That's the middle set of escalators, until the 90s that side of
liverpool street mainline station didn't begin until much further
north, roughly where the northern ticket hall for the central line is
now (which is why that ticket hall is in that position). Here's a
photograph of the exterior before the 90s:http://www.oldukphotos.com/graphics/...ndon,%20Liverp...
and the same view afterwards (at night) from a very similar point:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:L...tion_exterior_...


I think this is roughly where the bus station is now, above the arcade
below, but further west than the platforms. So it looks as if the
taxis went down the side of the station, as at Paddington, rather than
the station starting further back.

Broad Street is on the viaduct on the left.



I don't remember any direct exit from the Underground to Broad Street.


Here's a picture of the entrance at the surface:http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s.../index50.shtml
Here's what it looked like from the inside:http://www.ltmcollection.org/images/...70/9865070.jpg
and also (from the other direction):http://www.ltmcollection.org/images/best/72/9865072.jpg
I don't know how it fits together at platform level.


The main Underground ticket hall is not that different from how it
was, in that you went in facing south and then straight on towards the
circle line clockwise platform, from which you could take a bridge
over to the anticlockwise and also to the exit on the opposite side of
Liverpool Street.

You turned right and right again, as now, to go down the main Central
Line escalators.

This was also the main Broad Street exit as well. I'd forgotten that
there must have been a subway linking down the road to Broad Street,
but this would have been just below the surface and not related to
anything at the Central Line platform level.

I am sure that the escalators at the north end of the Central were
just for peak access to the main Liverpool Street platforms. The
picture you have found shows an Underground exit at the front of Broad
Street, just to the West of the main Underground ticket hall.
Escalators at the north end of the Central Line wouldn't have got you
any nearer to this.