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Old February 3rd 08, 09:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.transport.london,uk.rec.driving
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Default Bus Lanes: Proof Of What We All Knew

MIG wrote:
On Feb 3, 7:38 pm, "Brimstone" wrote:
MIG wrote:
On Feb 3, 6:32 pm, "Brimstone"
wrote:
MIG wrote:
On Feb 3, 5:51 pm, "Brimstone"
wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
MIG wrote:


Hailing taxis and having them dart over to the kerb is
dangerous and illegal in any case, regardless of any bus lanes.


It's not dangerous if the driver doesn't do it dangerously. As
for it being illegal ... what *are* you talking about? Are you
thinking of minicabs?


I'd query "thinking".


The current rules seem to go back to 1999, I don't know how they
changed, if they did.


On one hand it seems to be fine to hail a taxi if it isn't
dangerous or causing a nuisance (which it usually is), but on the
other hand drivers can't ply their trade away from a rank. Seems
to depend on whether they are moving.


Which rules are you quoting?-


This is why I say "seems" and hope from a contribution who knows
more detail. The relevant Acts would seem to have been updated in
1999 for the GLA, but there's a lot to wade through to find
anything relevant, for example,
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/Revise...a/1850/cukpga_...
which seems to be all about the setting up of ranks, and there's
loads of other bits and pieces.


My general understanding of where taxis can ply trade may apparently
not apply to moving taxis, from what it says on TfL. The Cambridge
report refers to danger and nuisance, but TfL doesn't.


It's confusing, given that it's difficult for a taxi to be able to
claim not to be plying for trade when it comes to refusing someone.


The basic legislation covering Hackney Carriages is still the 1847
Town and Police Clauses Act. It would appear that some places have
added to it over the years but the essentials haven't changed.-


I can't find within that the bit that regulates where they are allowed
to trade, other than the general area that the licence covers.


Precisely.

Either it's assumed from an earlier definition of a hackney carriage,
or it's been added later, or I just can't see it for some reason.


You've identified it above.