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Old November 15th 03, 11:33 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Mait001 Mait001 is offline
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Default The UK march agaimst Bush

Try not to make the same mistakes.

I do not accept that the majority of the population
opposes or opposed the war.


As a lawyer you are always lacking evidence.


I do not need "evidence" to tell me that a million people (if that's the number
that went on the big anti-war demonstration in February) is "the majority of
the population": it is self-evidently so.

I have seen no opinion polls that suggest "the mass of the British people"
oppose the war or are anti-Bush. The largest numbers I have seen in opinion
poll as opposing Bush is around 50%.

Yet you do not recognise anything other than the numbers on the march,
you do not believe opionion polls

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2747175.stm


Your link to polls conducted in February 2003 is relevant because?

So, how do you suggest people register their opposition?


I have already made suggestions.

Do political partys
wanting the UK to leave the EU get elected? I


That is such a fallacious argument that it doesn't even merit a reply. It is
just as fatuous as the Minister for Europe who wrote in "The Times" 2 weeks ago
that the Labour Party was elected BECAUSE of its policy on Europe. That is just
as stupid as saying that Labour was elected BECAUSE of its policy on Iraq (or
any other single issue). Governments are elected for a complex web of reasons.

Is their any evidence that
this is a view held by knee-jerk anti-EU torys that oppose anything that
prevents them making a profit (like having to give their employees basic
rights like the right not to be die at work).


Actually, my opposition to the E.U. has nothing to do with specific policies of
that organisation, but I do not want laws made in Brussels, by organisations
over which I have no control.

It's all very well if you happen to agree with the policies that are emanating
from Brussels. But suppose one day a cabal of extreme right-wingers takes over
there (the French National Front, Italian Fascists, German neo-nazis etc.) and
they start imposing thoroughly illiberal nasty right wing laws - would you be
so supportive of that form of government then?

My objections are not party political but on principle and for sound democratic
and philosophical reasons. And even just a practical and pragmatic one: sooner
or later the empire, like all of Earth's proud empires, will pass away.

" the right not to be die at work"


You have a touching faith if you are relying on Berlucsoni and his corrupt
cronies to give you this protection!

Marc.