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Old November 16th 03, 12:17 AM posted to uk.transport.london
Mait001 Mait001 is offline
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Default The UK march agaimst Bush

People demonstrate in the UK because the UK government makes laws and
they have no control over it. They can vote, but even if a significant
proportion of the population share their views they won't have these
views represented in parliament because of the nature of the political
system.

But, if we go by your definition of control (which seems to basically
be having a vote) then you actually do have control over the EU. You
can vote for a member of the European Parliament and you can also vote
in the UK. Your vote in the UK can help decide what our government
decides to do in Europe.


If a majority in the U.K. vote in a certain way, they can change the Government
of the U.K.

If 100% of the British electorate voted in a certain way at the European
Parliamentary election, it would have only a minimal impact on the European
Parliament, because there are 14 other countries whose M.E.P.s make up the
majority in that Parliament. We have no control whatsoever over them, and there
is nothing we could do to change the overall majority in the European
Parliament - ever.

It is analagous to saying that, at the next Election in the U.K., only those in
the Home Counties can vote - but no-one else; those making up the majority of
the Country could keep their M.P.s as previously elected and those voting in
the Home Counties would have as much chance of changing the Government as a cat
in Hell.

And the Commission is made up of second-rate clapped out politicians, only some
of whom are not corrupt.

Your vote in the UK can help decide what our government
decides to do in Europe.


Now you really are living in fantasyland. Vast areas of our law-making has been
surrendered to Europe - agriculture, fishing, food and hygiene, competition
law, health and safety, to name but a few, where we have no control any
longer.

There's much much more to come.

The entire B.S.E. fiasco was handled from Brussels: the British Govrenment
played no part whatsoever - as it proudly proclaimed every time some further
indignity was imposed - "it's out of our hands".....

Marc.