On 3 Mar, 02:25, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article
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(Mr Thant) wrote:

On 3 Mar, 01:03, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

I have to make a visit to FCC's central lost property office some
time soon. Will my Cambridge-London Terminals cheap day return
be valid to there (City Thameslink) via St Pancras International?

No. See page A4:
http://www.atoc.org/retail/_download...8_Common_A.pdf

"In addition London Terminals fares are NOT valid if travelling beyond
St. Pancras International from the north or beyond City Thameslink
from the south."

Curious. On this occasion I'll just cycle from King's Cross but the
latter point isn't consistent with the tickets I was sold for
Cambridge-London plus London-Brighton and return last year and in 2006.
On both occasions I stayed in London overnight on the outward journey and
returned direct via King's Cross Thameslink.


I think one problem is that ticket office staff are not always au fait
with the rules themselves - there have been many past tales here and
on uk.railway of people being sold the wrong ticket, including (IIRC
Southern) ticket machines issuing them with the wrong destination
despite the right request being made!

Furthermore even if you have the wrong ticket it might not ever have
got flagged up at the ticket gates - past posts have suggested that
the ticket gates at Kings Cross Thameslink were programmed very
liberally, given the shear variety of ticket types they could feasibly
encounter (an issue that has perhaps been transferred over to St
Pancras Int'l). I'm not going to dig around for it now but I certainly
recall posters reporting that "London Terminals" tickets from points
south were accepted by the gates at KX Thameslink even though they
shouldn't have been.


Alternatively, will it be valid to Farringdon to reduce my cycling
distance if I can't go all the way? I ask that because I am told by a
ticket holder that Cambridge-London Terminals seasons at least are
valid to Moorgate via Farringdon.

Yes they are, but you're not allowed to use Thameslink services, and
you're not allowed out at Farringdon. See page L5:
http://www.atoc.org/retail/_download...8_Common_L.pdf

"between Kings Cross St Pancras Und and Moorgate (via Circle,
Metropolitan, Hammersmith & City and Northern Lines) but
intermediately at Old Street ONLY"

Ah! That all explains an old thread here much better than happened at the
time. It also suggests that the Moorgate validity is entirely a
substitute for validity via the GNC and definitely not a residue of the
Widened Lines services pre-1975.


Yes, I remember that thread and thought the suggestion that it may
have been a legacy from the pre-1975 era were perhaps wide of the
mark. The most common explanation I've read is simply that Great
Northern electric (aka FCC) services finish operating to/from Moorgate
early (circa 10pm) and don't go that way at all at the weekend - so LU
can be used to get to/from these GN&CR stations instead.