On Mar 3, 4:13 pm, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
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(Mizter T) wrote:
On 3 Mar, 02:25, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

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(Mr Thant) wrote:

On 3 Mar, 01:03, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

I have to make a visit to FCC's central lost property office some
time soon. Will my Cambridge-London Terminals cheap day return
be valid to there (City Thameslink) via St Pancras International?

No. See page A4:
http://www.atoc.org/retail/_download...8_Common_A.pdf

"In addition London Terminals fares are NOT valid if travelling
beyond St. Pancras International from the north or beyond City
Thameslink from the south."

Curious. On this occasion I'll just cycle from King's Cross but the
latter point isn't consistent with the tickets I was sold for
Cambridge-London plus London-Brighton and return last year and in
2006. On both occasions I stayed in London overnight on the outward
journey and returned direct via King's Cross Thameslink.

I think one problem is that ticket office staff are not always au fait
with the rules themselves - there have been many past tales here and
on uk.railway of people being sold the wrong ticket, including (IIRC
Southern) ticket machines issuing them with the wrong destination
despite the right request being made!

Furthermore even if you have the wrong ticket it might not ever have
got flagged up at the ticket gates - past posts have suggested that
the ticket gates at Kings Cross Thameslink were programmed very
liberally, given the shear variety of ticket types they could feasibly
encounter (an issue that has perhaps been transferred over to St
Pancras Int'l). I'm not going to dig around for it now but I certainly
recall posters reporting that "London Terminals" tickets from points
south were accepted by the gates at KX Thameslink even though they
shouldn't have been.

In my case my tickets were never tested in the KX TL gates because if you
had any luggage (even in my case just shoulder bags on at least one
occasion) you had to use the manual gates where the staff just let me
through.


As some may know, I have Cambridge - London Terminals season ticket
and commute daily to Moorgate, using LU between KX and Moorgate.

I can confirm my ticket gets rejected by the gates at Barbican and
Farringdon (on the occasions when I tried that I used my pre-pay
Oyster instead to leave the station: that was in the days when you
weren't penalised for an unresolved journey).

However my ticket *does* open the gates at St Pancras Low Level,
despite my ticket not being valid there. (I only ever do this on the
occasions when KX Underground is closed due to overcrowding and
passengers are asked to divert to nearby stations).

PaulO