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Old March 10th 08, 02:01 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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Default Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident

On 10 Mar, 12:06, Sam Wilson wrote:
In article
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*Boltar wrote:
On Mar 8, 9:20 pm, "Graculus"
wrote:
Mainly because it should be, "None of the passengers WAS
hurt."


Since when? "were" is the plural form, passengers is plural.


Because none is (arguably) singular.


Consider oranges ...

If you said "several oranges", "three oranges", "fifty oranges" or a
"couple of oranges", you'd be referring to the individual oranges, so
you'd use "were" afterwards.

If you said "a box of oranges", most likely it's the box you are
referring to, so you'd say "was" (ie picking up a box is not the same
as picking up many individual oranges).

In the "none" case, it's not really a strictly grammatical issue; it's
whether you are considering the individual passengers or a unit
container of passengers. Is the meaning on the lines of "a none of
passengers ..."?

I doubt it, so I think that the plural is fine. There is no word
"nany", so "none" has to stand for "not one" and "not any".