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Old March 13th 08, 09:23 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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Default Northern Line near collision

On 12 Mar, 20:44, wrote:
On 12 Mar, 19:57, MIG wrote:





On 12 Mar, 08:23, Mwmbwls wrote:


On Mar 11, 9:31*pm, Mr Thant
wrote:


On 14 Jun 2007, 15:34, Christopher A.Lee wrote:


One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
end of the platform.


The RAIB final report is out:http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/...ts/reports_200...


The basic thrust is that he was looking at the CCTV monitor in the cab
(where a repeater signal was visible) and in a hurry to leave, so
didn't notice the stop disc or lack of a starter signal.


U


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The RAIB also point out that it is easier psychologically to notice
things that are there than things which are absent. I think this
report is a model of clarity in detailing all of the factors that go
together to make up the fatal cocktail that lies behind many
accidents.
It demonstrates how right it was to create a blame free accident
investigation culture light years away from the BTP treating
everything as a scene of crime and participants enforced silence on
their lawyers or unions advice. In the not so good old days the recent
problems with flying ISO boxes would have assumed the significance of
the corner gauge cracking shut down, Well done the RAIB.


It kind of demonstrates how a safety feature can indirectly cause an
accident, given that without the CCTV he would have looked for, and
noticed the lack of, the signal.


More importantly, like other near accidents (eg the opening of the
rear doors over the junction in the dark at Hither Green when the
driver forgot the length of the train), it couldn't have happened if
they still had guards.- Hide quoted text -


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My congratulations to the RAIB for the quality of their investigation,
too. This is, I feel, the quiet revolution of recent years.

However, I feel that an obvious suggestion has been overlooked. Why
not paint the end walls of platform tunnels a distinctive colour to
indicate the normal direction of travel - or perhaps to mark ends from
which movements are not normally carried out? The driver would have
clocked he was heading the wrong way down the platform straight away.

Rob.


Yeah, I thought that. At a cost of a pot of paint and a few hours'
work per line. Could just be a coloured square or something.