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Old April 10th 08, 11:01 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Default Thameslink NGEMU procurement - now in motion

EE507 wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:14 am, D7666 wrote:
On Apr 10, 10:34 am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Did you notice the bit in the 'Rolling Stock high level spec' that
calls for full ATO for the core route?


As ATO, signals and signals control systems, headways and capacity
are something I am now involved with professionally, I can't see any
alternative to meet the long term tph targets they are aiming at.

~ The capability to move a short distance without the traction
supply being present;"


Did anyone else spot "Some level of onboard energy storage may provide
an optimal solution overall"?

If you are only running on core routes, surely there will almost
always be other trains in the same section to use the regenerated
energy? North of the Thames, energy could be exported to the grid
anyway, and inverting substations could be considered for the SR
routes.

Energy storage is surely needed only for extremities of the network
where traffic is light - Seaford, Arun Valley, etc. I can't see it
being a problem in the metro area or Brighton main line.


That is exactly what the spec says immediately before your quote surely?

BTW - The South London RUS now suggests that the Arun Valley or Seaford
won't see Thameslink trains, unless they'll run further off-peak of
course...

Or is it just in case units have to limp out of sections
which have suffered a loss of traction supply..?


Well that is one of the reliability requirements - as I pointed out a couple
of posts ago - so some form of onboard energy storage is essential.

Paul