On 30 Apr, 00:38, 1506 wrote:
On Apr 29, 3:50 pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 29 Apr, 20:52, 1506 wrote:
(snip)
I had forgotten that the East and North London lines
are not really being integrated. The will only run in
parallel and share some stations.
The NLL and ELL will only meet and share a station at Highbury and
Islington, they will not run in parallel.
The finalised plan can be seen in a diagram on page 5 of this PDF:
http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...appendix12.pdf
I think there was some speculations as to whether ELL trains would run
along to Caledonian Rd & Barnsbury station and then reverse there,
indeed there was also speculation that there would be through running
from the ELL onto the NLL.
Anyway, this is not to be - which is possibly just as well for the
sake of providing a reliable service, even though through running
would have been convenient for passengers. Anyway, changing at
Highbury & Islington shouldn't be too much of a hassle - there will be
frequent trains on both the NLL and ELL, and lifts will be provided at
all the overground platforms to facilitate a step-free interchange.
Thanks Mizter T. However, I think I am missing something here. Will
both lines not call at Caononbury and Dalston Junction?
That's because I'm misleading you, sorry! I had managed to completely
forget about Canonbury station, which is especially daft as I actually
use it every now and then. Both the ELL and NLL will call at both
Canonbury and Highbury & Islington, so you're absolutely right to say
that they will run in parallel and share some (i.e. two) stations.
John B attempts to describe the situation as it will be in his reply
to your post.
However it might help to take a look at this PDF map of the ELLX
project (then again it might not!):
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa..._route_map.pdf
The route from Dalston Junction round to Canonbury and then H&I is
shown in lurid green. What the map doesn't show is the route of the
NLL, which will continue (exactly as it does now) east from Canonbury
to Dalston Kingsland station and then on to Hackney Central. Dalston
Kingsland station is a very short distance north of Dalston Junction.
Here's a street map of the area...
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=533614&y=184644
....Dalston Junction station was and will be just to the west of
Roseberry Place (where the arrow is pointing), and the entrance was
and will be on Dalston Lane, to the north. You can see Dalston
Kingsland station a little further north on the west side of Kingsland
High Street.
Dalston Kingsland station is actually a new station opened in 1983 on
the site of an old station, which was just called "Kingsland".
Kingsland station shut in 1865 when the nearby Dalston Junction
station opened on the new route into Broad Street station. Dalston
Junction then closed along with the rest of this line in 1986.
There was thus never any direct link between the platforms on the east-
west alignment at (Dalston) Kingsland and the north-south alignment at
Dalston Junction - indeed, for most of the time only one of the two
stations were ever actually open for use.
There's more info on Dalston Junction on the 'Disused Stations'
website he
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...on/index.shtml
If you take a look at the old map towards the bottom of that page
you'll see that Dalston Junction also once had a chord running north-
east to connect with what is now called the NLL. This isn't being
reinstated now - there isn't the perceived demand for such services to
run up the ELL and then turn east for Hackney - however should it ever
be needed this link could be reinstated at some point in the future,
as nothing has been built on it apart from a car park.