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Old May 3rd 08, 12:20 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit
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Default Golden opportunity missed? (Croxley Rail Link)


"1506" wrote in message
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On May 2, 12:13 pm, "Zen83237" wrote:
Quote For the cost of one bridge and a mile or so of new track

Well for £95m actually which makes it an incredibley expensive bridge and
mile of track.

Kevin


What WAS that price for a mile of motorway?


Roads are a hell of a lot cheaper in England and elsewhere. For the very
high cost of rail, it only carries about 5% of the people in England.
Brits are really ****ed with all rail building draining money from roads
along with causing high congestions and the crumbling of the roads. Go tell
them your opinions at uk.transport and see how they attack you with your
highly destructive opinions.

http://www.transwatch.co.uk/transport-fact-sheet-8.htm

1.. Tables 6.2 and 4.1 of Transport statistics Great Britain 2004 provides
41 billion passenger-km and 19 billion tonne-km via national rail. Dividing
the passengers by 20 yields 2.05bn coach-km. Dividing the freight by 15
yields 1.27 lorry-km. Adding the two yields 3.32bn (bus plus lorry)-km.
Maintenance and renewals for the system may be running at between £2 and £3
billion annually for the decade (Table 8.2 of Network Management Statement
2001). On that basis the cost per equivalent bus/lorry vehicle-km has the
range (60-90) pence. (If the equivalent bus flows are eliminated from the
sum on the basis that it would be lorries that do the damage then the cost
has the range (157-236) pence per equivalent lorry-km). Alternatively divide
the £(2-3) billion by the 32,000 km of track length and get £62,000- £94,000
per track-km per year. Alternatively again, if we set one tonne as
equivalent to one passenger then the infrastructure maintenance cost per
(passenger + tonne)-km has the range 3.3 pence to 5 pence.

a..
1.. For roads we here consider the Motorway and Trunk road Network only.
All maintenance costs are assigned to the heavier class of lorries, namely 4
axle rigids, and all artics, since it is those classes of vehicle that do
most of the structural damage. Further maintenance costs have been set to
the current account cost plus half the capital expenditure on the basis of
discussions with the DfT. On that basis the emboldened data in table
following show:
1.. (a)
That the cost per lorry-km was 12 pence (compared with the (60-90)
pence by rail).
(b) The annual cost per lane km has the range £25,000-£33,000
(compared with £62,000-94,000 per track-km for rail).
(c) The cost per (person + tonne)-km is 0.5 pence, one-sixth to
one-tenth the value for rail.



1.. The comparison is biased in favour of rail since (a) buses on trunk
roads and motorways amount to one tenth of the heavy lorry flow but are
ignored when calculating the factors (b) substantial elements of road
maintenance such as signs, lighting, verges, hard shoulders, winter
maintenance, and some wear and tear should be attributed to vehicles other
than to lorries alone.