On Tue, 20 May 2008, Boltar wrote:

On May 20, 11:48 am, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 04:31:43PM +0100, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008, David Cantrell wrote:
Or have a sliding scale that makes a single violation, like what normal
people might do occasionally, annoyingly expensive but tolerable, but
for repeated violations (either on seperate days, or by seperate
vehicles with the same owner) something that'll make the delivery
companies' customers say "no thanks, you can deliver at 2am instead when
you won't **** the buses up".
Ah - having it affect the customer, not the company. Now *that* is a
*brilliant* idea! I'm not sure quite how you'd do it, but it's applying
the leverage to the people who are holding the purse strings.

I meant that the deliveryco would get fined, but to pay them they'd
have to put their delivery prices up and *that* will make their
customers say no.

Hmm. The fines would have to be pretty huge to make a difference to the
price, once they'd been averaged out over all deliveries.

So a shop that has been around for decades suddenly finds that TfL have
painted a bus lane outside and the delivery van can no longer park there
at any reasonable hour so both shop staff and driver have to get up in
the small hours, Well thats fair isn't it.

Tough ****. That road's needed for public transport - the shopkeeper
doesn't get to hold up hundreds of people using it just so he can take a
delivery.

tom

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