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Old August 17th 08, 01:10 PM posted to uk.transport,uk.transport.london
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Default TfL Admits Livingstone Regime Deliberately Obstructed Traffic Flows

JNugent wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

JNugent wrote:
Brimstone wrote:


What new roads have been built in London (inside the M25) over the
last (say) ten years Doug?


I can name one:
"University Way" (part of the A206), which is inside the M25, but
which is not in London. The new-build part (which is now about ten
years old anyway) is in Dartford, Kent.
I am not aware of any other significant highway building inside the
M25 (whether inside or outside London) in the last 20 years, let
alone 10.


The A12 from the Lea to Redbridge opened in 1999.
The A13 from Dagenham to the M25 opened in 1998-99.
Waltham Abbey southern bypass opened in 2000
Orient Way in Leyton opened in 2001
Coulsdon relief road opened more recently
I think the A40 is currently being grade-separated through Acton


I accept that I forgot the A12 and A13 improvements, but they were all
planned before Blair and Mad Ken's time.

"Orient Way" - wossat?

If it hasn't got a number, it's not likely to be an important highway,
is it?

The only one I can find is:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Orient+Way&sll=53.800651 ,-4.064941&sspn=9.806345,19.775391&ie=UTF8&z=15&iwlo c=addr

That doesn't look like a significant addition to London's highway
infrastructure to me.


It's to carry lorries between the industrial estate at the north end and the
A12, and so other traffic will find Church Rd and Oliver Rd quieter since it
was built.

The "A"23 Coulsdon bypass is a typical example of the "modern"
anti-car thinking of highway engineers in the pay of local
authorities: single carriageway (unbelievable!) and with a
significant part of the width conned-off for use only by buses (an
admission of failure before it was even opened).


There are no local buses on the bypass. I've never used the road, but I
would imagine the major beneficiaries of the "bus lane" would be taxis from
Gatwick to London. Looking at
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...cl=1&encType=1
it seems as if there is room at the northern end to create a flat junction
which wouldn't clog.

There are plenty of examples of Livingstonian road sabotage, though.
Witness the (former) A40 (M) and the disgrace of the wrecking of the
(very useful) short stretch of M41 at Shepherd's Bush.


Although they have been reclassified as 'A' roads, both are just as
useful as they ever were.


Have you *seen* the former M41 recently?


Yes, several times a week for the last three years. In what way did it used
to be better?