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Old October 11th 08, 07:46 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Default Penalty fare increase

On Oct 11, 6:58*pm, wrote:
On 11 Oct, 17:32, "Paul Scott" wrote:

Surprised the increase to £50 (£25 if paid within 3 weeks) on TfL services
hasn't been mentioned:


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/10025.aspx


I wonder if mainline rail, regional trams, and the TW Metro etc will follow?


Paul S


Effectively the on-the-spot fine only increases by £5 with the more
severe penalty effective if there is a delay in payment. *The press
release suggests this applies to the Overground network so presumably
mainline rail operators will have to follow to avoid anomalies at
joint terminals.

The headline of a £50 fine is somewhat let down by the realisation
that the increase is really only £5.

Jonathan


It's actually a removal of the right to appeal (useless though that
was).

Also, I note that the article is full of references to fare evasion,
when as I understand it, if fare evasion is suspected, there should be
a prosecution.

So is this really about applying the penalty fare as a genuine fine,
rather than the removal of a discount, in which case is it legal?

It's like ASBOs, a lesser punishment, but one which can be applied
without trial on the assumption of guilty till proven innocent. It's
totally wrong. Fare evaders should be prosecuted, not let off with
£50 "fares".

(Although I suspect that fare evaders won't be touched at all, while
the authorities concentrate on people caught out by Oyster anomalies.