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Old November 25th 08, 11:13 AM posted to uk.transport.london
Andrew Heenan Andrew Heenan is offline
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Default Oyster PAYG on rail to the edge of zone

"solar penguin" wrote ...
Buses (and bus users) benefit much more from Oyster; the time taken
for loading-unloading is much, much quicker, and TfL's aim was to
extend the 'West End but ticket before boarding and touch in' to the
whole of London.

Shame they didn't take that into account when designing the details of
Oyster then.


I never said it was perfect. You've picked on one 'less than perfect aspect,
and made a crusade out of it. Instead of all this whining, why not write to
Boris - he has declared that the 'outer boroughs' - who elected him - are
his priority. I guess that includes your area of SE London.

So you're saying the big picture is that Oyster wasn't designed with
people like me in mind...? I agree. Isn't that exactly what I was saying
when you claimed I kept being wrong...?


Don't put words in my mouth.
YOU have said that Oyster should be abandoned because you cannot validate
your 'auto-topup' on a bus.

You are still wrong (and an idiot) and will likely stay that way.
But that's OK; we need all types to keep the world spinning.

Abolishing Oyster and the flat fare would give more useful info since a
record of the amount paid for each ticket would reflect the distance
travelled. (And, as a bonus, it would also end the injustice that people
only travelling a couple of stops pay the same as someone going all the
way from one end of the line to the other.)


And cost a fortune in extra staff and wasted time, ennding up with a bus
service like the rest of the country.

If you wish to continue your crusade against the machines, you are going to
have a pretty miserable life; they are here to stay.

Pesronally, I'd rather have a system like Oyster:

It isn't perfect, but it's bloody good, and getting better, and lets me
board quickly, waiting only for the idiot who whined about the five minute
wait, then spends 3 minutes searching his backpack for his oyster (probably
you!).

Your preferred alternative may mean waiting 10 minutes for a bus then wait
another three minutes for each of six people who pay with coins, and one who
argues with the driver for not taking a £50 pound note.

But we could bicker all day.

You want Oyster tailor-made for you alone; I accept that while nothing is
perfect, Oyster is a bloody good scheme, and has done a great job.

And I believe that sooner or later, even your pet peeves wil be met, so
maybe we won't see you elected as Mayor and jacking the whole thing in to
spite the rest of us..

And yes, you are still an idiot.
--

Andrew

"If A is success in life, then A = x + y + z.
Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut." ~ Albert Einstein