On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:52:33 -0000, wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:39:58 -0000, wrote:

[waterloo]

When do they plan to install gates for the Waterloo & City?

You don't need them at Waterloo as Bank is gated and there are no
intermediate stops.

So? You can get transfer onto another line or the DLR via the passageway.

There is no practical or safe way of gating Waterloo W&C. The long
gallery is too narrow and to place them at the ends of the ramps /
stairs would offer too little space. Also it is madness to place gates
at the tops of stairs or ramps with no reservoir or run off area. The
same argument applies to the exits at Waterloo - gates would be placed
in corridors or very busy circulating areas. I understand there are
huge queues at Waterloo for the W&C in the peaks and that these extend
right up the stairs and ramps - another factor making gating unsafe and
impractical. There is no point in sacrificing common sense just to
stick gates in and I say that as an advocate of them!

I wasn't aware that the DLR corridor gateline had gone at Bank as it's
yonks since I have been there. However the LU system is not fully gated
and never, ever will be in my view. There are too many places where
cross platform interchange exists and where it is completely impossible
to gate that there is always a risk of "leakage".

This is why LU uses validators for such locations where there is a
boundary between fare systems - I devised the concept of the Prestige
validator and wrote it into the specification. At that time I was not
aware that it would become quite so well used at places like DLR and
Tramlink and NR locations but generally it works. I'd prefer there to
be more publicity to aid passengers using them so the circumstances in
which you touch or not were clearer.
--
Paul C