On 19 Dec, 03:15, "Mr.G" wrote:
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wrote:
The things where a travelcard is bundled into a day return (which
Chiltern have done for a while, but Virgin now seem to do as well) are
marginal: they're six zone, which is good if you're going to use it
but less good value if you aren't. *And I'm never entirely sure
(perhaps someone could comment) on if they include buses.

Yes they do.

Also include all NR in the zones, which is important if you have to go
to any southern suburbs. Oyster PAYG, with capping, only applies to
LU, buses and a few selected NR routes.