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Old December 24th 08, 09:57 PM posted to uk.transport,uk.transport.london
John Wright John Wright is offline
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Default Buses waiting time and blocking the road

David Hansen wrote:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:29:15 -0000 someone who may be "Depresion"
127.0.0.1 wrote this:-

Bus companies don't have the right to build laybys wherever they need a
stop and on many routes there wouldn't be any place to put them , or
alternative locations to use

Then they don't get to stop and traffic can flow again. Good solution.


(Motor) traffic is stopped by many things. The greatest cause of
delays to traffic is motorists in cars. There are so many of them
that they clog roads in towns. After that delays are caused by
things like road junctions, though these are really a manifestation
of too many motorists.

There are two ways to solve congestion. The first way to do this
only works for a while, knock everything down and expand into the
countryside. Where this has been tried it has only worked for a
while before congestion rose again. Los Angeles is a good example.

The second way works in the long term. Transfer some of the trips to
walking, cycling and public transport. One of the ways to do this is
to make buses more attractive. One of the ways of making buses more
attractive is by filling in laybys and installing better stops and
bus boarders in the space the layby used to take up. Not only does
it work but it is better for everyone, despite the whining of a
small but vocal minority.


Buses are subject to traffic in all the ways other traffic is. If
traffic is delayed, so are buses. If you delay cars, you delay buses also.

I still think the worst delays to buses is the insane idea of one person
buses. It may cut costs but it slows the whole job down unless you have
an Oyster card or pre-pay system or similar. (They're not found in too
many parts of the country to date.)


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John Wright

I used to drive a car a lot also. Duhg Bollen.

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Duhg Bollen promised a report on how Vince can reduce his carbon
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