On 4 Jan, 20:22, Richard wrote:

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:26:19 +0000, Walter Briscoe

wrote:
Mizter T:
[1] Off-Peak Day Travelcards actually have a potential validity period
of 28 1/2hrs (from midnight until 0430 the following morning), but one
can only take advantage of this on Saturdays, Sunday and public
holidays (i.e. the only days when Off-Peak Travelcards are valid all
day inc. before 0930).

I would appreciate a quote from
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...-and-tickets-Z
-1-6-02-01-09.pdf to support this intriguing suggestion. I think
validity starts at 04.30 and runs up to but not including 04.30. Fun
would start on services - bus or national rail service - where a journey
starts before 04.30, but ends after.

I think I can answer that, at least from the Underground's point of
view. *Just before Christmas, I need to buy an off-peak day Travelcard
on the train, as the ticket machine couldn't sell it. *The guard was
very happy to sell it, but accidentally issued it for the next day. *I
only found out when I tried to go through the gateline at Charing
Cross, where they told me that I would need to go back to Waterloo to
get it changed. *I intend to complain about that - it's an RSP ticket
after all - but anyway...


I'm mildly curious to know where this ticket machine that couldn't
sell an Off-Peak Day Travelcard was - it seems rather remiss for any
ticket machine within reasonable reach of London by rail (i.e. around
the south east) not to have it as an option.


My journey didn't need the Underground in the end but tired and
emotional I returned to Piccadilly Circus just after midnight, where
my ticket, which I thought might now be valid, was rejected. *It may
of course be keeping the gate config simple, rather than a statement
of policy... *With a minute to go to get my train at Waterloo, I
didn't hang around to discuss the conditions of carriage!


Was the next day a weekday? If so then what happened would make
perfect sense - an Off-Peak Day Travelcard would not be valid until
after 0930 on a weekday, full stop.

I'm sure I have used a Off-Peak Travelcard, issued in advance the day
before by a National Rail ticket machine, to successfully get through
LU ticket gates after midnight on a Friday or Saturday night (i.e. in
the first hour of its validity).