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Old December 11th 03, 08:29 AM posted to misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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Access Systems wrote in message ...
In misc.transport.urban-transit Boltar wrote:
Access Systems wrote in message ...
also a much higher percentage of the subway (tube) stations are
accessible..


Thats because they're not nearly so deep down and so its a lot easier to


only a small percentage are "deep" what's the problem with the rest


I think you missed the point.The majority of underground LU stations are
deep down bored tunnel. Installing a life means boring a shaft , not simply
cutting a hole in the roof as in NYC.


retro fit lifts. Though to be honest even assuming someone in a wheelchair
could get down to the platform , how they'd get on a tube train in the rush
hour beats me.


why should there be a problem...people in wheelchairs regularly ride NYC
and Tokyo subways at rush hour, what makes the tube any less possible.


Some types of tube trains are a lot smaller than subway trains, the platforms
are narrower and the platforms are not level with the train floors in most
cases. Also on the trains there is nowhere for a wheelchair to go other than
block the doorways causing a safety hazard.


this has always been the biggest obstacle to access, people who have never
been there (using a wheelchair) telling the users what they "can't" do
without ever bothering to find out what they "can do".


Anything can be done if you have a couple of billion to spare. LU doesn't.

everyone else uses, so start by making the busiest stations accessible.


See above.

B2003