Jack Taylor wrote:
I still maintain that the damned things are dangerous. In crowds no-one can
see the indicator through the milling throngs. It only takes one person to
step out into the road, on a 'red man', and the sheep follow - it'll only be
a matter of time before a number of people get mown down. At the very least
there should be a repeater at or above head height, even if it is on the
same side of the road.

It doesn't even need a milling throng. My habit at the older crossings
if I was the first pedestrian was to press the button and then lean on
the pole while waiting for the green man. If I do that on the new ones,
no-one can see the lights.

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Phil