On Feb 19, 5:13*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 19 Feb, 13:18, Mizter T wrote:



[big snip]

So, what's up at LOROL?

Just found this BBC News online story about the troubles at LOROL:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7898757.stm

It seems the question of whether or not there'll be guards on the new
trains is one issue - this is a quote from the piece:
"The union also claims that rail bosses have failed to confirm verbal
assurances that new trains will be staffed by guards."

I think the new trains are DOO equipped so I was always under the
impression that guards were on their way out (perhaps they're simply
not very keen at being made redundant in 'today's economic climate'
which would be understandable).


I'd be surprised if there were any job losses due to introduction of
DOO, there will be a more frequent service operated, needing more
drivers and there will be plenty of driver positions on the ELLX when
that opens. If the unions want to reserve jobs for more guards, on the
enhanced service, then I don't think think that they really have a leg
to stand on.

As an alternative, maybe Bob Crow is stirring up trouble (!!) and
wants guards on the Euston - Watford DC line as well, as these will be
new trains on a currently DOO route.

However it sounds as though that's not the only issue - facilities, or
rather the lack of them, at the now far more comprehensively staffed
stations seems to be an issue too. I recall talk of how at least some
new such facilities were on the cards so as to cater for all the new
staff - perhaps what they've got doesn't equate to what they thought
was promised in the bright new shiny orange future.

Maybe new facilities are not arriving as fast as the staff might want.
Reading the article, this is the main point, with the guards mentioned
more as an aside.