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Old March 24th 09, 04:36 PM posted to uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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Default (Times): Britain to have fastest train service in the worldwithin 12 years

On Mar 24, 5:42*am, Michael Bell wrote:
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On Mar 23, 1:58 pm, TimB wrote:
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to..._sectors/trans...


Aha. So they're saying 'It is much cheaper to safeguard the land at
the start' [for quadrupling] rather than actually planning to build
four tracks from the start. Fair enough. And the plan is to connect
with Heathrow Express at Old Oak rather than running the HSL via
Heathrow - also sensible, I think.
This looks excellent. *I will believe when constructions starts!
Although, I am not convinced that a Central London (Well Camden)
terminal is impossible. *Accessing Euston with its spare capacity
would not be that difficult.


So we are going to have these massive double-deck trains coming in
every 4 minutes, and onward transport, chiefly the tube, is not going
to be overwhelmed? It can only just cope now!

They're clearly pinning their hopes on Crossrail. Although it's also
near Willesden Jn for NLR and WLR, plus Central line.
* Tim


And despite the "desperate need for Crossrail" that was given reason
for building it, Crossrail will have plenty of capacity to take
passengers from these BIG trains? Double-deck. Every 4 minutes.

I Have my doubts.

That's why I like Ove Arup's suggestion of extending the CTRL from a
new St. Pancras (North), maybe via Paddington, Heathrow and then
north.

The trains would start at Ebbsfleet (does that count as a "London"
station, then stop at Stratford...etc

IMHO Ove Arup had it right. The route coming in from Stratford should
branch before St Pancras and continue to Willesden. I have my doubts
about Heathrow. It would be better to swing north towards Northolt.

The link between HS1 and HS2 should be used for Paris/Brussels to
Birmingham/Manchester trains.

IMHO Euston is probably the best London Terminus for London to
Birmingham/Manchester and the North train. This is despite the fact
that Euston is a cold Polsonite 1960s structure.