On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:44:42 +0100 someone who may be "Mortimer"
wrote this:-

Yeah, which work *so* well that surveys of red light jumping don't
even bother to count anyone going through on amber or in the first three
seconds of red, because "everyone does that"

It's quite right that they don't count vehicles going through on amber
because this is not actually an offence.

I note that you were unable or unwilling to deal with the "first
three seconds of red" bit of the posting.



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