"Rob" ar_jay_jay_cox_at_nildram_dot_co_dot_uk wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:25:40 -0000, "Dave Liney"
wrote:

What fare evasion? He had a loaded Oyster card and used it correctly when
joining the bus and the Oyster machine accepted his card. That the
machine
is taking the wrong amount isn't the fault of the user.

But TFL have not made Oyster Pre Pay available for use on its buses
yet, hence it is not available as an acceptable medium for paying your
fare. That it charges you 1p is irrelevant, you are not using a valid
and recognised form of ticket and are therefore evading paying your
correct fare.

Then why does the Oyster machine accept his card? It should reject it as not
containing a valid ticket. That the card was accepted and a deduction made
suggests to a user that a valid ticket was purchased.

One of the advantages of Oyster is that you don't have to know what fare you
require. The system deducts the correct amount automatically so how is a
member of the public to know that he hasn't paid the proper fare.
Differential pricing coming in for Oyster cards compared to cash fares will
make the evaluating that more difficult.

Dave