On 12 May, 22:08, Mizter T wrote:
On May 12, 8:41*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:





"Mizter T" wrote:

On May 12, 5:10 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

There was a paragraph about this on the Modern Railways site:

http://www.modern-railways.com/infra...ure/300309.php

Interesting. Are we to expect 'breezeblock-basic' work done on the
Camden bridges then?! The funding shortfall for GOBLIN electrification
would still seem to be substantial though.

AIUI TfL and NR are satisfied with the latest plan, i.e. up and down freight
loops between Highbury & Islington (exclusive) and Camden Road (exclusive(,
with the existing double track over the Camden Road bridge and through the
station. So the money which would have been needed for the earlier plan, and
which is belatedly available, could be used for Goblin electrification.

Peter

Interesting, thanks - I'm obviously out-of-date on all this! So,
originally we had TfL planning to do up the bridges and quadruple the
line through Camden Road as part of the broader NLL upgrade works;
then TfL (and NR) discovering that this would all cost too much given
the fixed budget they had; then the DfT agreeing to fund it anyway
because it was really important work; now we've got TfL and NR
satisfied with a less costly solution that doesn't involve 'quad-ing'
the track but instead relies on freight loops - is that a fair
summary?

If so, presumably the freight loop plan was devised as a plan B in
case the full works programme at Camden couldn't go ahead (or perhaps
it was devised after TfL realised they hadn't got enough money, but
before the DfT decided to open its chequebook?) - I wonder if it is
really regarded as a somewhat less than optimum solution, but it is
thought of as a necessary sacrifice so as to get the Goblin
electrification off the starting blocks? Of course the Camden Road
quadrupling could always happen at some later stage if it was deemed
necessary (though *if* Goblin electrification happened it would take
some of the pressure of freight traffic off the NLL through Camden
Road).

The original costings for the GOBLIN electrification, by TfL, was done
purely on the basis of freight usage. I assume to take this traffice
off the NLL at Camden and so allow less money to be spent here on the
freight capacity.