On 29 May, 12:45, disgoftunwells wrote:
On 29 May, 12:04, Tony Polson wrote:



disgoftunwells wrote:
On 28 May, 19:13, Tony Polson wrote:
disgoftunwells wrote:
Where you have an essential service, how about legislation to remove*
the right to strike and replace it with compulsory pendulum
arbitration. This has worked well at many companies, where a strike
would damage employees and employers. It could work in the public
sector as well.

The first reaction to such a suggestion would be for the RMT to call an
all-out strike.

That would of course be a political strike which is banned under the
80s legislation, so the RMT could then be stripped of its assets.

Nonsense. *RMT would be striking because management were unilaterally
imposing an unacceptable form of wage negotiation. *That's a fundamental
issue and one that would form a perfectly legal basis for industrial
action. *Comrade Crow would have no problem rustling up a vote against,
so all requirements of the industrial relations legislation would have
been complied with. *

Please read what I said - *"legislation to remove the right to
strike ....and [enforce compulsory arbitration]"

This would be nothing to do with the management and the RMT. If the
RMT launches a strike then would be striking about Government
legislation - i.e striking against a third party which is illegal
under the 1984 act (I think - I studied it 20 years ago - but
certainly one of them)

But ultimately, when faced with constant blackmail, a day of reckoning
has to arrive.

That's where you're wrong. *Decades of simmering discontent and periodic
strikes have led to more decades of simmering discontent and periodic
strikes. *Nothing has changed. *Nothing is bringing it to a head, so
there won't be a day of reckoning.

I was thinking more generally. When was the last time the miners went
on strike? Even Rover workers turned a new leaf, though ultimately too
late to save themselves.

Workers keep getting what they ask for. The management can't do
anything. finally external stakeholders force the issue. In a
competitive market, external stakeholders are customers and act very
quickly.-

Cite a successful strike or an example of workers getting what they
ask for? The management invariably hold all the cards and always get
what they want.

Along the way, they may propose something beyond reasonableness in
order to wear out the unions, and then appear to back down to what
they wanted all along.

There was a brief period in the early 1970s when the unions appeared
to use the kind of tactics that all business use all day every day,
but basically unions have no power at all beyond the funding that they
provide to Labour oppositions, and that's all been squandered by a few
officials chasing knighthoods (with a few honourable exceptions like
Bob Crow) rather than representing the interests of their members.