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Old May 31st 09, 10:13 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
Paul Scott Paul Scott is offline
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Mr Thant wrote:
On 31 May, 20:13, wrote:
Hmm, I'd be surprised it there were many of the 12 car trains making
'extra' stops south of St. Albans during the peak, as the the
deceleration would make them less attractive to the longer distance
commuters.


I'm suggesting there will be 12 car metro services, and potentially
some 8-car outer services, and to a mix of destinations south of the
river. Balancing capacity between inner and outer is going to be the
biggest challenge of the service going forward, and it would daft to
set one particular split in stone by divvying up the fleet and paths
between two companies.


I suspect the only likely split of Thameslink compared to the existing setup
is the widely predicted transfer of the Wimbledon - Blackfriars terminators
(SL RUS) back to the South Central division.

Suggesting what might happen based on the current service pattern is a bit
of a waste of time, because by KO2 services will be significantly different.
It would be a bit odd if the planned 12 car metro services providing 4tph
all stations stoppers through the Sydenham corridor to St Pancras Int (SL
RUS Fig 9.5) were not still 'all stations' north of the core surely?
(Notwithstanding the stations that cannot be lengthened for 12 car
services).

I don't honestly see 'transfer to LO' as the panacea anyway. For instance,
IMO the ELLX would work equally well if it had been allocated to Southern,
station manning and train frequency could be specified in a franchise if the
will was there.

Paul S