"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
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But if it is a choice between a not nice climb out on full flap or mating
with a Tupulov half way down the runway, I know which I prefer.

If there is a Tupolev halfway down the runway, you should never have got
that far. I've done a full-flap overshoot in an Oxford, and didn't enjoy it
much. It took forever to get to a height where I could reduce the flap
setting, even with the wheels up.
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Terry Harper
http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/