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Old July 4th 09, 10:37 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default The beginnings of Thameslink (was: ECML demise)

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It involved building a new fleet of trains
The new trains were fairly easy to justify, given that it allowed
the 317s to replace older stock (312s?) on the routes out of
Kings X, and further cascades to replace life-expired stock
elsewhere.


IIRC when the 319s arrived on Thameslink the 317s went to Euston,
replacing the 310s. Subsequently 321s came to Euston, the 317s went
to Kings Cross, replacing the 312s.


King's Cross and Liverpool St.

But weren't there a lot of new build 317s that went straight to Kings
Cross as well? The ones with the opening windows and smoother cabs
(all so cannibalised now it's hard to know which were which).


The 317/2s (the ones with the designed instead of thrown together front
ends and opening windows as you say) are now all 317/6s and the mainstay
of the West Anglia Route out of Liverpool St. They were refurbished to
317/6 with seating similar to that in the 365s in WAGN days.

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