"Barry Salter" wrote in message
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Lucas wrote:
Someone I know who has access to the FRPP website confirmed to me
that:

For domestic tickets, a journey from the Southeastern area to
stations
beyond London which would normally be routed via Ashford will allow
travel by "Any Permitted Route", and that would be valid for travel
on
the Javelin preview service without a supplement. A local journey
Ashford - London would need the supplement, however.

Said friend obviously hasn't read the information contained in The
Manual[1] correctly then.

There's a list of 100 Southeastern and Southern stations defined as
being high speed catchment stations, with associated HS1 supplements.

The only journeys that *don't* require a supplement are longer
distance ones routed "Any Permitted" (the example given being Derby to
Ashford International), and passengers holding appropriate First Class
tickets.

The point is that Kentish Town - Ashford is routed Any Permitted and
therefore is valid in the same way that Derby - Ashford is valid. Maybe
this is not what SET intended, but until they change the tickets to "not
via HS1" they are valid.

[Kentish Town - Ashford vice London - Ashford]

Looks like you can save yourself £4 on a single,, or £6.20 on an
anytime return... or am I missing something?

You'd fall foul of the fares rule when checking for valid routeing
points for the journey.

Kentish Town has London Group and West Hampstead Group as potential
routeing points. Ashford International is a routeing point.

Doing a fare check:

Ashford International - Kentish Town Anytime Day Single: £22.60

London Terminals - Ashford International Anytime Day Single: £22.20
route Not HS1, £26.60 route via HS1

So you can only use London Group as the destination routeing point by
avoiding HS1, as the fare via HS1 is more than the fare for the
through journey.

What about West Hampstead - Ashford? This is the same price as Kentish
Town and because it is a routeing point there is no requirement to check
any fares.

Peter Smyth