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Old July 28th 09, 02:12 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.rec.cycling
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Default These writhing whales of the road have swung their hefty rear

On Jul 28, 2:52*pm, wrote:

Obviously the buses fault, nothing to do with the driver. Must be something
psychotic about the bendy part of it.


So you can't see why an 18m long vehicle doing this in front of you is
more of a problem than a 9m long vehicle? Really? In this case the
bus pulled onto the roundabout and immediately had to stop for a
traffic light, blocking my route to the exit. A standard length bus
would simply not have been a problem.

See above: your base premise is in error. *Do you cycle much in
central London?


Why would I? I'm not an idiot. There are these things known as buses and
tubes.


If you want to use a slower and more expensive mode (and take part in
the great virus incubation experiment while you do so) then that is
your choice :-)

I'm not the only cyclist to find bendy buses to be
disproportionately problematic.


If you can deal with a large bus then you can't deal with HGVs either so
therefor you should leave your bike at home, accept you're not competant
on the road and stop whining.


Once again, you are wrong. I can and do deal with goods vehicles of
all sizes, but the largest artics are not normally seen in the centre
of London during commuting time, and they also have quite different
characteristics - the tail of a bendy bus moves in *much* faster than
the trailer of an artic. Bendy buses are far and away the longest
vehicles and also the most common long vehicles you will encounter in
central London during peak hours.

The original comment was:
"Sharon Grant, Chair, London TravelWatch said:
"We have yet to hear a credible reason for scrapping
bendy buses..."

I think there are credible reasons for removing them from some
routes. I am not the only one to think this. Which indicates to me
that Sharon Grant is either deliberately ignoring some concerns, or
perhaps meant to imply "altogether" in her sentence, in which case I'd
agree that scrapping them altogether is probably unnecessary as long
as you get them out of the places where they simply don't fit
properly.

The great joy of London is that it's a human-scale city, you can walk
from St Paul's the the National Gallery, wander round for a couple of
hours then walk on to the West End for a show. Bendy buses are out of
scale, designed for a Continental model which Wren, Hooke and others
failed to have applied to London after the fire.
--
Guy