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Old July 31st 09, 12:25 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
Tom Anderson Tom Anderson is offline
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:01:28 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Paul Corfield wrote:

Interesting that the guard has to travel in the train carriage, DLR
style, as the door release and door close buttons are by the doors
themselves.


I was wondering about this a while ago - i can't remember if i asked here
or not. How does this work when the trains are crush-loaded? Is the guard
sardined in with his flock (school?)?


I guess they must have to stay at the same door area until such time as
the crowding subsides and they can move elsewhere. I've not travelled
on DLR in mega crush conditions.


John's answered this, as it pertains to the ELL - the guard has a cab to
retreat to.

The fact one pair of doors is open while the guard shuts the others just
means people dash and plead with the guard to be allowed on - this
certainly happened with the lunchtime trip I saw at Highbury where there
is a constant stream of passengers.


I'm really confused by by this. Why is one pair of doors open while the
other isn't? What does 'pair' mean here?


The concept is the same as DLR - i.e. the guard is in control of one
doorway (i.e. two door leaves that slide across). From what I saw today
the guard stepped out on to the platform to ensure the other doors where
clear before initiating the door close process. Once the other doors are
closed he then steps into the train and closes the one remaining doorway
where his control panel is.


Oh, i see! Thanks for the explanation.

If you've seen what happens with DLR then you've seen what is happening
with the 378s.


I haven't used the DLR that much, hence my ignorance of this procedure.

Sorry for confusing doors with the bits that actually slide across the
opening!


Not at all - this was a regrettable lacuna in my knowledge of doors.

tom

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