Roger wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:11:23 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

I think it's more likely that the sign was put up in the 1970's when
LU were starting to redesign Johnston. It might contain some
experimental variations that were not adopted for New Johnston.

Whilst on the subject of New Johnston I'm surprised that nobody
has mentioned alternative characters, or at least dots.

Compare pages 4 and 7 of the Fares for 2004 leaflet. On the
Carnet advert the full stops and the dots on the "i"s do not
have straight sides; on the Oyster ad they do.

Well spotted! The dots on the Carnet advert have concave sides. This
appears to be a feature of the lighter weights of the typeface ("Book" and
"Light") whereas the heavier weights ("Medium" and "Bold") have retained
the straight-sided diamonds. If you download the Acrobat version of the
leaflet from
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/common/downloa...es-revised.pdf
and set the zoom level to 1600%, you will see that the general text in the
document, e.g. Ken Livingstone's message on page 2, also has these
concave-sided dots. It is probably done to emphasise the shape and make it
appear consistent in all versions of the typeface, though as you spotted,
it becomes rather too obvious in larger point sizes.

It seems to be a modification of the original New Johnston design, as it
doesn't appear in samples dating from 1988 shown in "Johnston's Underground
Type" by Justin Howes.
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Richard J.
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