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Old August 11th 09, 05:25 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default PAYG on FCC north of Finsbury Park

On 11 Aug, 18:14, John B wrote:
On Aug 11, 6:08*pm, Roland Perry wrote:





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09:56:28 on Tue, 11 Aug 2009, martin
remarked:


Walking past Alexandra Palace station this afternoon, I noticed that
the standalone Oyster reader (on the pavement, next to the outdoor
ticket machine) has had its neoprene jacket removed, and was inviting
passengers to touch in or out of the station, and had an orange LED
lit.


I can't see any mention on the TfL or First Capital Connect website
that PAYG is now valid from this station - does the working reader
mean that it probably is, but they've just not told anyone about it
yet?


Why does it have to active for PAYG, what about only for travelcards on
Oyster? (Or does the presence of an Oyster reader *always* mean PAYG is
allowed?)


a) Travelcard users don't need to touch in, so providing a touch-point
for them (other than to get through barriers) would be pointless.


Unless they are extending their journey beyond their zone on another
side of London ...

But they don't provide such readers at all the other ungated stations
where travelcards are valid. Maybe it's a special case because PAYG
is accepted on parts of FCC?



b) the presence of an Oyster reader doesn't mean PAYG is allowed.

c) however, if someone were to touch their PAYG Oyster card in at Ally
Pally, and it were to beep in a 'normal' fashion', flash green and
then charge them for a PAYG journey, then there's no way in hell FCC
could get away with penalising them for travelling without a valid
ticket.

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